DZ-94: Talismans (Part 2)

How can you use physical objects to track character change… wordlessly?

In part two of our two-part series on TALISMANS, we break down the beats used to turn objects (in a broad sense) into talismans; how talismans can track character journeys and transitions; and how they can be used to create powerful moments without words.

While Part 1 looked a range of talismans in a bunch of different movies, in this episode we deep dive into just three examples. We look at how Thor’s crisis of masculinity is articulated through his relationship with Mjolnir and Stormbreaker in THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER; how the yearning love in PORTRAIT OF A LADY ON FIRE is communicated through paintings and music; and how the impact of an emotional affair is charted through key locations in INTHE THE MOOD FOR LOVE.


Audio quotations used for educational purposes only. Timestamps indicated below. Chapter markers included in the mp3.

Thanks to Chris Walker for editing this episode.


  • 00:00:00 – Intro
  • 00:01:15 – Talismans (Part 1) Followup
  • 00:08:37 – Forging a Talisman (The Beats)
  • 00:23:22 – Thor: Love and Thunder
  • 00:59:52 – Portrait of a Lady on Fire
  • 01:32:39 – In the Mood for Love
  • 01:59:39 – Key Learnings & Wrap Up
  • 02:06:10 – Thanks to our Patreons



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