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Kim Ho
Guest"The transgressions go both ways."
— Kim Ho | DZ-122: Escalating Antagonism Across Genres
2025
DZ-122: Escalating Antagonism Across Genres
How can you apply horror ideas to action and comedy?
Listen to learn how thinking of your hero as the horror (for your villains) makes your script dynamic.
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In this episode Chas, Stu and guest Kim Ho continue their exploration into the power(s) of antagonism and how focusing on them can develop story… →
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AI✦The entire episode maps Transgression-Omens-Manifestation-Banishment-Slumber across REBEL RIDGE and MEET THE PARENTS, demonstrating that this tabletop RPG framework generates story fuel and deepens character relationships regardless of genre.✦
DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS
How do the antagonistic forces in your story escalate distinctly from the protagonists' journey?
Listen to strengthen your story by focusing on the antagonistic forces in your script.
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We often struggle to develop the middle stages of a story. Could this be because we focus on our protagonists’ journeys and plot structure more than on how the antagonistic powers are awakened, wronged, discovered, gathering strength and revealing themselves… →
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AI✦Chas argues that most story structures focus on the protagonist's plot, but TOMBS lets you map the rising power of antagonistic forces separately--which is what generates narrative fuel and makes your second act sing.✦
Films:
Sinners (2025)
"There are absolutely two horrors in Sinners, but like they run in tandem and like the kind of almost. Two final climaxes or confrontations um uh is the film managing those those dual antagonists."
— Kim Ho | DZ-121: Escalating Antagonism in SINNERS